This jacket is Nuts. I have a Tech Pack M-65 from 3 years ago that I rock on a daily (thx. Mbizzy). I also got Super-duper lucky @ the Nike out let when I found an NSW M-65 sample for $28. Best deal EVER!!! $400 jacket for $28. Sorry Kranz, Sila, Franz and Jean-Mat. It was fate and meant to be.